Canonisation of JPII and JXXIII


Came across this question in a discussion forum:

“The newest RC saint’s ‘canonization’ (which has no meaning for Anglicans) does raise a theological conundrum.

How does one square the miracles attributed to John Paul II with the death of a young man killed by a cross in Italy? What are the theological implications here? Should his “canonization” be held up?

Just wondering if anyone else has had a thought or two about this?”

Although my knowledge of potential theological implications is very much wanting, what I did ask was if participants might be able to throw some light on a comment I saw during all the hype on social media that if Francis was ever canonised, that would make the JPII and JXXIII canonisations void?

Nothing was forthcoming from the forum and I am still curious about dogma in this regard. However. I did think about the OP’s question and here is what I see the issues to be:

As for saints I believe the RC Church has instituted a tradition that cannot be reversed or even modified as to do so would challenge the very foundations of authority of St Peter’s throne and adversely affect the faithful. I am only learning theology so cannot make an informed argument here but from what I know of the Reformation Huss, Luther, Zwingli, Calvin etc saw Church influenced by practices that were not based in scripture. They included pagan celebrations and ritual, idolatry and etc. The RC Church made changes cautiously in the Reformation period and it will be interesting to see how it manages matters such as Francis and the social environment that globalisation has and will continue to bring about.

The RC Church as I see it is a huge physical and spiritual juggernaut that once committed to an action has a lot of trouble slowing its course, let alone stopping it. As for the youth that was tragically killed, imagine Francis getting up and saying, “oh, well, it’s obvious the Lord has put His mocker on *that* one so only one canonisation on Sunday I’m afraid.”

My opinion is that the RC Church is so bound by its own history and dogma that commitment to that history and dogma is an inherent part of what it is, and that change is a very complicated and delicate operation if the RC Church is to maintain its legitimacy as today’s incarnation of the apostolic church in Rome.

Your thoughts?


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